Nobody who has viewed the footage or read the accounts of the clash between Anjem Choudary and his band of bearded mental patients and various patriot groups outside the Regents Park Mosque in London cannot think that this is yet another watershed moment. Like the Islamic murder of Drummer Lee Rigby last May what happened at Regents Park on Friday 18th April will continue to resonate. The events will resonate for several reasons.
Firstly the sight of the police protecting Choudary and the mental patients will enrage many. For far too long we have put up with his incendiary rantings and we have seen too often how Islamic hate-mongers like him are tolerated and indulged by the powers that be in order to placate Britain’s Muslims. If I called for the overthrow of British society and had an entourage that had graduated to becoming terrorists then I wouldn’t be sitting here writing I would be in a cell, why then has not Choudary been so treated?
Secondly there was the tale of pre-teen Muslim boys making throat cutting gestures with the possible connivance of adults which gives the lie to claims that second and third generation Muslims are integrated and loyal citizens.
Thirdly and I believe most important is the fact that out of the hundreds of Muslims attending Friday prayers at Regents Park, allegedly only one Muslim man challenged the views and presence of Choudary and the mental patients. This fact alone should worry us all for if the opponents of Choudary in one of Britain’s premier and most prestigious mosques numbers only one person then radicalism and Islamic sedition is much more widespread than we have been told. On Friday the phrase ‘only a tiny minority of extremists’ was shown up to be complete bullshit. I applaud the Muslim man who took on Choudary, and it is a crying shame that there are not more people like him out there.
This is the Breitbart website’s take on the clash.
“There were extraordinary scenes yesterdayoutside the Regent’s Park Mosque in London as the road was blocked by Islamist protestors and counter-demonstrators.
Anjem Choudary, the radical cleric had announced that he was calling a “Rally Against British Crusade” to be held after Friday prayers. The English Defence League (EDL) and Britain First groups both responded by calling counter-demos against Choudary. I arrived at the Mosque to find the two British nationalist groups already present. There were around twenty of them, which later swelled to double that number with late comers. They were penned in by police barriers across the road as people were convening for prayer.
As the prayers finished, hundreds of Muslims came out to the sight of Union Flags and EDL members. As it was a bank holiday and most of London was not working, there was a huge congregation for Friday prayers, most of whom seemed unaware of the “Rally against British Crusade”. They were suddenly very aware of British nationals gathered chanting outside the mosque.
The police quickly made a line to separate the two groups, but there was a lot of shouting and bottles thrown back and forth.
My impression was that there were about 50 Islamists that were actually protesting and trying to aggravate the counter protesters and the many hundred others were simply leaving prayers, watching and caught up in the drama. Young men especially were incensed and vocally upset at the sight of the EDL. At one point the EDL even called out that they were not anti-Muslim, but anti-Sharia and anti-terrorist.”
But it seems the worshippers were not upset at the sight of Choudary and his band of bearded mental patients acting in such a manner as will sadly and almost inevitably bring down hatred and disgust from the host community onto their own people. It is a cast iron rule of living as a minority in a culture that differs from you that you don’t piss off your hosts. Other groups such as Jews, Sikhs, Hindus etc have all learned this rule and sometimes harshly and it is about time that Britain’s Muslims did the same.
It would help to put this lack of opprobrium from the worshippers about Choudary and his crew into perspective by undertaking a thought experiment like this. Can you imagine if a group of extremist Jews rallied outside ANY synagogue to call for the imposition of Jewish Law, called Halacha, on the non Jewish community as a whole. I’ll tell you the answer to that thought experiment, and the answer is that you would not be able to imagine it, no matter how hard you tried, because if such a highly unlikely event occurred, then I can guarantee that more than one person would have confronted the nutjobs. There would not have been one person having a go at the meshuganim (crazy people) there would have been 100 at least. Any sensible minority of whatever background or belief knows that you do not deliberately go out of your way to make your hosts or the majority culture hate you or despise you.
Muslims as a group and Islamic communal organisations appear to be either unwilling or unable to see that winding up the majority with calls for violence or oppression never ends well for the minority who does it. Choudary and his crew are lighting the blue touchpaper and it is down to Britain’s Muslims to show that they are willing to put the burning fuse out. If they do not and there is a violent reaction to Islam in Britain then the Muslim community as a whole will only have themselves to blame for this reaction. If a person says nothing about evil then it is as if they had committed an act of evil themselves. I do not want to see violence, no sensible person wants to see violence, but every person and every nation has their limits beyond which they will not be pushed. Choudary has declared war on the British people and the British culture and the British way of doing things and when the brown stuff finally hits the fan (and in my view the stinking turd is already arcing its way towards the spinning blades) then it will not be Choudary personally who gets it but innocent people, many of whom came to Britain to escape the oppression of Islam.
The Breitbart website continued:
“A small group of Choudary’s close associates including terror convict Abu Izzadeen were deliberately trying to get as close as possible to the Britain First protesters, and both sides were taunting each other. At one point a group of the Islamist protesters suddenly tried to knock cameras out of the hands of all journalists within reach. I witnessed a female camera woman who later told me she was working on a BBC documentary being pushed and shoved by a group of Muslim men.
The scale of drama was largely unexpected. One man told me he has been attending that mosque every week for 30 years and had never seen anything like it. At one point it seemed very scary due to the sheer numbers of people, but the fact was that a lot of the crowd were moderate Muslims who did not try to escalate matters.”
But the moderates could have done a LOT more to de-escalate matters and put themselves in a much better light by taking on Choudary and his crew. The fact that they didn’t is a worrying portent for the future.
Breitbart added:
“The protest lasted about an hour after which time the anti-Sharia protesters left voluntarily with a police escort. The police blocked the road to stop any of the Muslims following, although one or two did follow and were later arrested after some scuffles. The original rally continued after this with associates of Choudary speaking of the need for Sharia in Britain. By this point less than 100 people remained.
A loan man wearing an Arsenal supporter’s hat arrived with a megaphone and started saying “thats it folks shows over, the blind leading the blind over again for now” and he was immediately surrounded by Muslim men saying “who are you calling blind?” “
The full story of this day can be found at http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/04/19/eyewitness-account-of-regents-park-protests with more detail from the writer Raheem Kassam at http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/04/19/Islamists-and-EDL-clash-outside-Regents-Park-Mosque
This should be the last time ever that either the police or the Muslim community indulge or ignore Choudary and his ilk because if they continue to do so then they may well reap the whirlwind of anger from a British populace that, even though it is tolerant of individual Muslims, has quite plainly had enough of Islam and the negative things that it has brought to the United Kingdom.
I’d like to end this piece by calling for those opposed to Islam to not indulge in random or not so random acts of violence against Islam or Muslims, despite this and other horrendous provocations, but instead to make sure that they vote on May 22nd 2014 for the Islamo-sceptic candidate of their choice. The police are the ones that need to give these dangerous Jihadi bastards a good kicking, but the police will only do that if they are backed by elected representatives with the political will to both give them the instructions to do so, and to give the police the necessary post Jihadi-kicking backing.
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Here is a set of photographs of the Islamo-fraggles demonstrating in London
I cant work out why government is allowing this to happen?is it because they fear the anti islamic people more? and if so should they not be representing the majority? if we get our heads cut off by some islamic nutter can our government be sued for not protecting its people?why is a law by a minority group,muslims even being enacted against the will of the people as in sharia? why are islamists allowed to shout louder than everyone else? why are we permitting rights above the general population to muslims above everyone else?nothing to do with money from the Emmirates.
Possibly post-colonial guilt of the political elite, something that Thatcher didn’t have because she like the rest of us was not a winner from the old Empire. Those in the political elite were especially the people who have been born to politics, are trying to atone for what they view as sins and hence are pussy footing round with the problem. As usual it is the poor who suffer, who have their areas invaded and communities destroyed.
Sorry Bunny but fuck the colonist stuff,its not what is going on now,islamists try to prey on a problem,colonial guilt,and use it to try to take over its hosts,you just find them reasons.
Couldn’t agree more, but it is the only reason I can think that the political elite have for letting these bastards get away with the crap that they do. If you look at both sides of the House, they are identikit PPE graduates who haven’t had a proper job in their life. The likes of you and me even if we were members of a party wouldn’t get to be a PPE because the party leadership would just parachute however they wanted to into the constituency.
Politics is now a closed shop of Oxbridge clones, who haven’t had a life outside of politics or education, that is why they are letting it happen, the bastards are clueless.
They think they have a divine right because their fore fathers mugged our parents,they are dumb interbred no marks who we let rule,as such.I still say muslims are not the problem,they are too thick,but the idiots we let make laws.
Sorry Bunny I gave you a very simplistic reply to your question.I think that we should halt the safe seat rubbish we have,get rid of the current voting system,have votes equalling 1 vote per person.no deposit needed,the bbc to go bye bye unless it actually reports on what is real news in this country,and polititics to be available for all not a select few.
Ian, I agree with your above and below comments, there is now a political class and it is clinging on to power for dear life. The Labour Party now have political dynasties, look at the Benns ffs, three generations (possibly four) of the bastards. Straw father and son, a feudal political party claiming to represent the working class and they were the bastards who let the mass immigration really start.
So in the words of 8 mile,fuck the free world,I think if we want to get rid of islam we need to vote accordingly,ukip for now?
Am I wrong,can islam survive without media attention?is islam sponsered by goverment? YES.
So change the rules.
Are we being taken over by a proven race of dummies or,are we letting goverment walk all over us?
From what I can see,muzzies get away with what they do under the guise of that magic word”multiculturalism”.Once that word is accepted then it means,in effect,that if my “religion” believes I can walk around naked,then that means i can do that,because my “religion”and all it entails,is every bit as valid as your”religion”and beliefs.So if my religion says it’s ok to behead,kill,and subjegate it’s host country,well,who are you to say I can’t?In fact,now we all accept and understand the word “multiculturalism”it becomes an actual crime.Also,it doesn’t matter who is in the minority or the majority anymore,because if you happen to be in the minority,your “religion”and beliefs trump that fact that there is a majority and ignore that and you are guilty of “racism”,that other often bandied about word,highly favoured by the sand rats.Take Halal,for instance.If I were to kill an animal in such a way,then I’m sure that somewhere along the line the RSPCA or some other organisation would be involved,but say the magic word”muslim”and it apparently becomes ok and within the law.Which begs the question-who’s law?English law or sharia law?Pandering to muslims has opened a whole can of festering maggots and the British government are the guilty party here for not nipping this bullshit in the bud,and I have to agree with Breibart….it will be the British people who will eventually retaliate and it will not be a pretty sight.
How about Halal meat being classified as sacrificial meat and therefore unfit for Christian consumption? That is one way of attacking it, personally I will not eat (knowingly) Halal. The second I am now becoming more political and vociferous and if the British people do retaliate I wonder who will be first, the politicos and their hangers on or the Islamists. My money is the politicos first and then the first idiot to raise their heads over the parapet with regards to requesting enhanced rights. Getting rid of the BBC would be a good starting point.
Halal meat is also forbidden for Sikhs and Jews as well. For Sikhs because they are forbidden from eating any meat that has been ritually slaughtered no matter where it comes from, and it is forbidden for Jews because the name of a pagan deity, Allah, is said at the moment of slaughter (halal is also forbidden for Jews because the special post-slaughter processing such as removing the sciatic nerve and certain types of fat is not done in Halal). Also Halal doesnt’ encompass the tough animal welfare commandments (not killing an animal in front of another animal or killing a lamb in front of its mother ewe, making sure the knife is extra sharp, and having a long and detailed training period for slaugherers etc) that bind Jews. It pays to remember that about the only thing that is similar between Islamic Halal slaughter and Jewish Shechitah is the exsangunation and that Halal is a bastardised travesty of Shechitah.
Personally I would not ban either halal or kosher slaughter but I would definitely be in favour of labelling so that Christians and Sikhs can make informed choices over what they are buying. It is not often known that the exemption to the pre-stun law was purely so that members of those communities that require non stun meat could get it, it was not intended for that meat to be dumped into the general meat market. I believe the law says ‘for those communties that require it’.
I have observed both kosher, halal and conventional slaughter and I’m convinced that Halal slaughterhouses cut corners in many areas which is why halal meat is so cheap when compared to conventionally killed meat and with kosher meat. If you want more information on this subject then Mary Temple Grandin is a world authority on reducing the stress in animals at the time of slaughter.
Remember that due to CJD we can no long ‘pith’ an animals brains to ensure death and this lack of ‘pithing’ is the cause of so many failed stun attempts in conventional slaughter.
Let’s label ALL meat with source and killing method and give us all a choice.
Well said fahrenheit.There are certain websites that you can look at that show you all the halal products in the UK.It is possible to show compassion with an animal at the time of slaughter,and not meaning to preach to one more knowledgeable,if I am right,I think that Jews are commanded to treat animals well at all times? Jews do not worship satan and there is nothing to commend muslims to any right thinking person who loves freedom and has compassion…..muslims are kind neither to man nor beast.
The Biblical passage that forbids the killing of a Ewe and its lamb for example in front of each other is from Leviticus and is found at Leviticus 22:28 http://www.biblestudytools.com/asv/leviticus/22-28.html
The point is that all halal meat is sacrificed to satan…..I am not willing to touch or eat such meat,it is contaminated.You need to scrutinise your shopping items,as it is suprising how many are halal.Like Fahrenheit says,let us have a choice,but even so,I just can’t bear to think what those poor animals slaughtered in the name of satan went through in their final moments(and don’t even go there as regards people who are slaughtered by the muslims)May God protect us all.
write to your MPs about this, half of them will know nothing about it…and include links, they listen to the BBC, only read MSM and live in cloud cuckoo land.