I have enough experience of people who lie to promote or protect the ideology of Islam, to be cynical of almost anything that comes out of the mouths of Muslims (with the exception of ex-Muslims of course). I’ve seen too many so-called ‘condemnations of Islamic terrorism’ made by Islamic spokespeople which have been tempered with accusations that Islamic terror is ‘someone else’s fault really’, so I treat any Muslim speaking about Islam with extreme suspicion. That may sound to some as an extreme position but it is one that bitter experience has taught me to hold. At one point in my life I actually believed what I was told by Muslims about Islam, but now, after so many lies told to me by Muslims, I find that I cannot believe a word that any of them say about Islam. The disconnect between the words and the actuality is far too great.
Therefore I find that I have to be suspicious of the father of the Cardiff Jihadi and his anguished cry that it was ‘someone’ that radicalised his son and not the Koran. The evasive nature of the father’s words about his son’s motives for fighting, and his insistence that it wasn’t the foul ideology of Islam that motivated him, but unnamed people who were driving him to this, is as plain as a pikestaff.
Here’s the Breitbart coverage of the Cardiff Jihadi story with my comments in plain text.
Breitbart said:
The father of a British man who left to fight in Syria said on Saturday he “wants to cry” after his son appeared in an online video aimed at recruiting jihadists.
Ahmed Muthana identified the man in the 13-minute video, entitled “There is No Life Without Jihad”, as his 20-year-old son, Nasser Muthana, from Cardiff.
Speaking to BBC Wales, Ahmed Muthana said seeing the video made him “want to cry” and asked his son “why did you do this?”
I think we all know the reason why Nasser Muthana went to Syria to kill non-Muslims, because killing and enslaving non-Muslims is something the Koran has encouraged for nearly a millennium and a half. It is highly disingenuous to say ‘why did you do this?’ when the answer can be found in Islam’s ‘Big Book of Death’.
“Is he going to kill?” he asked. “He didn’t think of the children, the women, elderly people. Someone is driving these kids to do this.”
Of course he’s going to kill, he’s a devout Muslim Jihadi, it’s what they do. Just as a cat meows and a dog barks, so does the Muslim when empowered to do so, gravitate towards killing and oppressing non-Muslims.
Nasser, who had received four university offers to study medicine, appears in the YouTube video — dressed in a white turban — using the name Abu Muthanna al-Yemen and is flanked by five other men, three of whom appear to be British.
His father slammed those who had drawn his son into the conflict, saying they only “send other people’s children” into battle.
He accused them of making a problem for whole of the “multicultural” UK, not just the Muslim community.
The father’s comments are just sound and fury, signifying nothing but Taqiyya and obscurantism. Note well how he places the blame on individuals who have radicalised his son and not on the ‘Big Book of Death’ that is so plainly guiding him. Notice also how the father is accusing the Jihadis of bringing problems, but also how he is attempting to widen things by saying it will bring problems not only to Muslims but to other groups. Well I have some news for Mr Muthana senior, many of these other groups hate the ideology of Islam just as much as those Britons who can say that their families sat under the same oak tree for 500 years. There are people in this country, good, kind and integrated people, who do not forget how Islam murdered tens of millions of Hindus and wiped out one third of the population of Sikhs. This proportion of population destruction that the Sikhs suffered, is the same proportion of the number of European Jews who were murdered by Hitler and his henchmen in the Holocaust. We do not forget such atrocities and more importantly we do not and must not forgive. Only those who are wronged can forgive. To use a Biblical analogy, Islam is the ‘Amalek‘ of our times and needs to be wiped out or removed to places where it can do no more harm to civilised cultures.
British police are trying to remove the online film, which was posted by accounts linked to militant group the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL).
It’s not only the removal of the online film that is needed, it is the removal of Islam from Britain that is most urgent. Some cancers can be controlled with chemo or radiotherapy but some cancers, like Islam, have spread so much that they can only be cured by radical surgery. It is a cancer that first oppresses and violently enslaves those who have the misfortune to be born Muslim, and after that sucks the life out of whatever non-Muslim culture it has invaded or been placed in. Islam eats up first the Muslim and then the non-Muslim. If we want to save the lives of the slaves of Islam, then we need to forbid the practise of Islam on these islands. Islam should be seen as a pariah faith and treated as such. Every woman wearing a Hijab or a Niqab and every young boy-child forced to imbibe the contents of the ‘Big Book of Death’, is a victim, even if they appear to be a willing victim. A professed belief in Islam should be seen by civilised people as being akin to someone saying that they have a profound belief in the civil rights of Paedophiles to carry out their chosen sexual practices, or that they see no wrong in going shopping wearing an SS uniform..
The jihadist group is renowned for its ferocity, and is currently fighting against the Syrian regime of Bashar al-Assad and recently took Iraq’s second city of Mosul.
British intelligence believe ISIL has recruited around 400-500 Britons.
These people are not true Britons and never have been, since they show no respect for the British way of life and British laws. Other groups have come to Britain and have made great contributions and have brought us new ways of thinking and new industries. However Islam has only brought us welfare parasitism, mass rapes, compulsive lying and death. These are ‘gifts’ that this country could well do without.
Ahmed Muthana told BBC Wales that he was worried his son would “come back to me in a coffin”.
Good. For every dead Jihadi I’ll have a drink to celebrate.
He explained that his son had left home in November, and that he believed he had gone to study in Leicester or Shrewsbury.
“I received a phone call saying that he’s in Turkey and that’s it,” he added.
And you expect us to believe that? Do you take us all for fools? I do not believe that someone can go from integrated and civilised to fanatic savage in 8 months. He must have had some inkling that something was wrong but did nothing.
“I don’t think that’s Nasser talking, it’s someone else is teaching him to talk like this because the attitude of Nasser is 100 percent completely different,” he said.
This comment sounds very much like the lies and excuses I’ve heard so many different times when Muslims have been caught out.
The British government on Thursday banned the militant group currently rampaging through northern Iraq, adding it to a list of proscribed organisations along with four other groups linked to the Syrian conflict.
It is now an offence in Britain to belong to or invite support for ISIL and the four other proscribed groups, or even to wear clothing or carry items in public indicating support.
Again, yet more sound and fury signifying nothing but this time coming not from the mouths of Muslims, but from the British government itself. I’ll believe that there is truth in the government’s words when Islamic hate preachers and similar start to get rounded up and get jailed, interned or deported. I predict that the likes of Anjem Choudary will continue to preach their poison on our streets unmolested. It is meaningless words from a meaningless government, who will say almost anything to keep Britons from knowing the truth about the ideology of Islam.
Prime Minister David Cameron is worried that British nationals joining in the fighting in Iraq and Syria pose a threat to Britain’s security.
Police have made 65 Syria-related arrests since January 2013, Cameron’s office has said, while 14 people had their passports seized in the year to March, “a significant number” of them related to Syria.
I’d have more respect for Cameron if he told the truth and didn’t refer to these Jihadis as ‘British nationals’ because they are not, they are just uncivilised savages who unfortunately have been allowed to breed here. I’m shocked to read that, at best, only 14 Savages have had their passports seized, this number should have been far, far higher.
The comments to this piece on Breitbart are also as illuminating as the above the line article. There are three comments in particular that are refreshingly truthful. The first was this:
“Someone is driving these kids to do this”
Yes you are Mr Muthana, you and many other bad parents within our unwanted immigrant population. Your culture is destroying the very fabric of British life, please leave and take your failures with you.”
Well said! I find it difficult to believe that Muthana senior didn’t have some inkling about what was going on. I certainly concur with the sentiment that he should go and take his failed family with him.
The second and third comments that caught my eye were these ones::
Something stinks in all of this
Father does not want to be seen . .. .
– Says he thought lad had gone to use his medical knowledge?
What medical knowledge do you get from A Levels? He has not started Medical school.
– It now appears his brother is with ISIS as well
– They never saw a thing, with two sons, that would cause them to think they were radicalised
The muslims have to up their game & report these terrorist before the act & before they go off to carry out mayhem.
John Smith
Timmy2much John Smith • 10 hours ago
They only reason he is saying this is because he has been tracked down, either by reporters or the police.
It is probably the police and he has been told to say these things by the intelligence services in a bid to try and ‘maintain community cohesion’.
Cynical – you bet I am. The powers that be in this country are not working for the greater good – if they were they would seek to at least prevent more potential terrorists coming in to the country – but they dont.
The borders remain open and unchecked.
Muslims continue to get away with saying things that would see others in jail.
The pc brigade still run rampant through the media appeasing those that would attack us.
The English have been backed in to a corner – sooner or later we are going to have to fight our way out.
Spot on Mr Smith. A biology A-level would give a person scant medical knowledge and certainly not the sort of skills that would be required to be a battlefield medic or to help with the medical needs of refugees. I wouldn’t consider an A-level student to be skilled enough to treat a paper cut, let alone deal with the complex and life-threatening medical requirements of those caught up in the Syria conflict. The allegation that the brother of Nasser Muthana is also involved in Islamic terror in Syria, further edges Muthana senior’s comments into the category of outrageous lies.
I tend to agree with the commentator Timmy2much who said that Muthana senior is only speaking up because he’s been tracked down. It does appear that Muthana has been coached to say the things he did. What he said also had a similarity to what other Muslims have said, when they’ve been exposed as having Jihadis in the family. The phrase ‘oh we didn’t know’ is about as laden with truth as the phrase ‘Islam is a religion of peace’.
It’s time to tell the truth about Islam, which is that it is a shitty ideology that rapes and kills and corrupts with virtual impunity and calls such actions ‘good’. In Britain we have faced such enemies before, but in the past such enemies have been kept at bay to a certain extent by the English Channel. Our idiot politicians have allowed this enemy to reside and metastasise in our land and worse, taxpayer-funded Quislings and ‘useful idiots’ have lied to people about the nature of the threat. If you live in a rural area or a town or city as yet untouched by Islam, then you will not know the full horror of living as a minority in an Islam-dominated area.
