Dr Fahim of the Mulberry Way Mosque in South Woodford.
Answer: When a Muslim makes it of course.
Earlier today I received a comment on this blog, about the refusal by the London Borough of Redbridge to grant planning permission for a huge and dominating mosque in Mulberry Way, South Woodford.
This has been a very contentious issue and the ‘Mosque-e-teers’ have been engaging in some spectacular ‘Taqiyya’ – lying to advance Islam – on almost every occasion. When I attended a planning meeting previous to this one, I saw for myself how the ‘Mosque-e-teers’ turned up to the meeting mob-handed, in order to intimidate the councillors on the committee. What concerns me now is the behaviour of Dr Fahim of the Qu’rani Murkaz Trust, the promoters of this unwanted mosque.
My correspondent said:
“Dr Fahim, continues his aims, and blames councillors who are not “trained planning officers”, and states that “councillors are worried about votes”
The committee noted that the height of the revised building had been reduced at one end by just 30cm, (12 inches in old money), when councillors questioned car parking, and noted the Qu’rani Murkaz Trust leased a local car park from the council, and if this were to change, where would attendees park?
Clearly agitated, Dr Fahim, replied “this would be your fault, you will be judged on the day of judgement””
Fahim’s words look suspiciously like a veiled threat of death to me. We all know from news reports, and by examining Islamic history, that Islam has a propensity for sending millions of non-Muslims to ‘meet their Maker’. With that sort of record and that sort of history, how could Fahim’s words be taken other than as a death threat or at least as a threat to harm? Although,stating that a person will be ‘judged by some deity’ either after death or on the day of judgement is something that could be said by any believer in any religion that has a concept of judgement; would it have the same air of menace if it came from a Christian or a Jew? I think not. Islam is a belief that is often accompanied by a significant amount of violence aimed at others, both Muslim and non-Muslim. A threat of ‘judgement’ from a Muslim is significantly more worrying than some Christian street preacher telling me that I’m going to be judged, and the day of judgement is coming soon. The Vicar or Preacher can be ignored or argued with, in either case I have no fear of violence from them, but the violent streak within Islam means that this ‘judgement’ statement should not be ignored, it has an implicit threat to bring the day of judgement closer for that individual.
Because this was a contentious planning application, the Metropolitan Police were in attendance to see that public order was maintained. However, Met Police officers witnessed this statement by Dr Fahim and did precisely nothing. At the very least I would have expected Fahim to be nicked and cautioned for making a threat to kill. In order to arrest someone for threatening to kill, such threats need to be credible and with Islam’s record a statement like that of Fahim’s could quite easily be taken as a credible threat to kill.
Why hasn’t Fahim been nicked or spoken to by the police? Is it because he is a Muslim and the police don’t want to antagonise other violent bearded savage Muslims by nicking him?
My correspondent added:
“It was very clearly a religious threat, Cllr Deakins in reply to the threat from Dr Fahim, was that “we will all be judged on the day of judgement, not just the council”…not a peep from the Metropolitan Police officers present… “
I think that this went beyond a ‘religious threat’ because we all know how violent Islam is and how violent Muslims can be when they don’t get their own way.
So Met Pol, are you going to have ‘words’ with Fahim, or are you going to behave as you do in Newham, when Jews are attacked by Muslims purely for being Jews, which is to cower and hope the problematic Jew goes away?
It looks like Redbridge also has a problem with police officers, who are more than willing to let a Muslim get away with something, that if done or said by someone else would more than likely result in an arrest or at least a quiet word.
“…when councillors questioned car parking, and noted the Qu’rani Murkaz Trust leased a local car park from the council, and if this were to change, where would attendees park?”
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Judging by a mosque near me, on double yellow lines, pavements and anywhere else they ****ing like. With not a traffic warden to be seen.
There’s been problems like this in loads of places where Islamic traffic wardens don’t ticked those attending the mosque.
XX Met Police officers witnessed this statement by Dr Fahim and did precisely nothing. At the very least I would have expected Fahim to be nicked and cautioned for making a threat to kill.XX
He hasn’t.
No more than, as you point out, the fire and brimstone Hyde park corner lot.
I hate the sand nigger bastards as much as any oine else, but don’t let that blinker you to reality and the rules of EVIDENCE!
I was trying to get over the fact that a fire and brimstone preacher talking about ‘judgement’ is a whole lot less worrying than an Islamic person doing the same. The undercurrent of violence in Islam makes it a whole different ball game. If he had been given some form of warning about language than fair do’s but he wasn’t. The response of the councillor who said ‘we will all be judged after death’ was probably t he correct response. I’m just angry that here’s another one of these bastards getting a free pass. If the boot was on the other foot would the police’s response have been the same. Dont’ forget I saw the mosque-e-teers turn up mob handed when I went to the previous planning meeting and mobs do make a difference.
I agree totaly with your point, and understand from where you are coming. BUT, the Police need a pesky little thing called EVIDENCE.
And here, although we all “know what they mean” there is NO evidence or “Mens rea” (Guilty intent.)
Ie, Nothing proved or provable in court. He would merely use the “Fire and brimstone preacher defence.”
So do NOT blame the police for “doing nothing!”
There IS nothing they CAN do.
Agree with you but I cannot help but wonder if the police would have let a similar comment from a member of another group? Unbfortunately I’m seeing too many instances where police sit on their hands when they should be acting. I do still feel however that because of Islams propensity for violence we should be warier of statements by Muslims than similar statements made by others.
XX but wonder if the police would have let a similar comment from a member of another group? XX
They DO!
The Hyde park corner fire and brimstone mob! As ALREADY pointed out.
And that is as it should be, but we are seeing examples of the police playing softball with Bearded Savagery. The hate preachers of the East London Mosque are a case in point. The police do not intervene even when these hate preachers have held public meetings. Also the Yisroel Shalom case that I linked to is another example, he has reported multiple attacks on him and his property by Muslims on many occasions but the police appear very anxious to do bugger all. However, when it comes to non Muslims attacking Muslims the police are eager to be seen to be acting.
I think the mood of the country is changing. On some of the newspaper forums the message is quite clear, they are not wanted and they need to be kicked out. Sites like this are helping enormously, as well as the barbaric behaviour of the R of Pers.
Keep up the good work, it is much appreciated.
Thank you for your compliment. I agree the mood of the country is changing. The only people who dont’ have an opinion are those who take no interest in what is going on around them and take in what little news they consume from the BBC. Although there is a changing mood it should not be forgotten that this fight will be difficult. There are lot of people who have earned a good living from politically fellating the ROP and they are going to kick up a hell of a stink if challenged, also there are those who really will not like to have to admit that their faith in a multiculturalism without limits isa false one they will also fight to keep their positions. What annoys me is if this all kicks off violently it will be a conflict that we did not need to have. Britain was well on its way to being a society where people were not judged on the things that they could not change and an acceptance of those who were different but peaceful, and it was only the injection of and pandering to Islam that has soured things badly. Islam truly is the equivalent of sticking an egg cup full of dogshit into a tub of icecream. If Islam was only a problem in one or two places then you could say ‘these problems are aberrations’ but Islam is a problem in more places than just a few.
Well said Farenheit, an excellent post – Islam is indeed a problem in more than a few places, in fact I’d say that there is a problem with it in every single country on the face of the planet that it infects. Thank you for your blog & keep up the good work!
They have now appealed to the Secretary of State. Allowing plans for this monstrosity to go ahead, as well as allowing unacceptable behavior of its promoters, would be a betrayal of British people. Let’s hope Mr Pickles would see sense.
Er… don’t count on it – votes trump everything & the Tories are desperate to pander to our ‘peaceful’ citizens to garner their X.