Some of the protesters who campaigned against the imposition of a mosque in Snakes Lane Woodford, Essex
Take over a building, use it illegally, whine loudly when rumbled and then get retrospective planning permission, then rinse and repeat until area completely ‘Islamified’ , it’s the Muslim way, we see it over and over again.
If the ordinary member of Joe Public built an extension to their house or did some other works to it or took two shops out of retail use for their own purposes then you would expect that the law would come down on them like a ton of bricks. Mr Joe Public would be expected to demolish the illegal building and pay massive fines and legal fees. If you do wrong, and break the law then it is expected that the law breaker will have to face some form of sanction.
Well that’s what should happen.
Unless, that is if you are a whiny Muslim group stuffed full of a sense of self entitlement and possessed of a ‘sod everyone else attitude’ and are aided and abetted by an Islam appeasing planning inspector. A plot by a Muslim group to impose yet another unwanted mosque on the people of Redbridge in East London appears to have been successful with the granting of planning permission for the conversion of two shops into a mosque. This permission was granted by the planning inspector based in Bristol, in spite of Redbridge council finding that the appellants had used the building illegally as a place of worship and recommending that permission to convert the building into a mosque be refused.
The local newspaper for the area, the Wanstead and Woodford Guardian (H/T Clara. thank you) has said that there has been a massive number of objections to removing two retail units and turning them into yet another mosque.
Journalist Douglas Patient writing in The Wanstead and Woodford Guardian said:
“ A controversial plan to turn two shops into a place of worship has been given the go-ahead after a successful planning inspectorate appeal.
This decision comes after it was rejected by Redbridge council planners in December last year who said it would have a “detrimental” impact on a high street.
More than 850 people signed a petition against the Woodford Muslim Cultural Centre’s (WMCC) bid to convert a former hairdressers and a sweet shop in Snakes Lane East, Woodford Green, into a community centre with prayer facilities.
The WMCC was looking for permission to hold up to 60 people at a time during 20-minute prayer sessions, which would have taken place seven days a week, between 7am and 10pm.
The application was refused on December 30 on the grounds “it would result in the loss of retail units which would be detrimental to the retail function of the Woodford Broadway and Snakes Lane East”.
Residents, shop owners and the reverend of Saint Barnabas Church opposite the site, objected due to a loss of retail space and existing parking problems.
And an appeal to the planning inspectorate, with a decision made this week, has been successful.
Inspector Grahame Gould rejected Redbridge council’s suggestion that the use of the site as a mosque would be detrimental to the area.
He said: “The council asserts that the premises could be let to alternative occupiers, however, it has not presented any evidence to substantiate that claim.
“The appellant intends that the premises would, amongst other things, be used for: the holding of coffee mornings and afternoons; and the provision of youth mentoring and careers advice.
“In my opinion the operation of the community centre would bring people from the local area to this shopping area and assist with maintaining its vitality.
“I therefore find that this use’s presence would be complementary to the functioning of the local centre and would not harm its vitality or viability.”
Bridge ward councillor and Conservative Party leader Paul Canal said he was “surprised and disappointed” at the decision.
He said: “Frankly I am baffled.
“For a planning inspector to ride roughshod not just over our planning policies, but also the views of local people, is incomprehensible.”
For the source of this story please follow the link below.
http://www.guardian-series.co.uk/news/wanstead_woodford_news/13503760.Shop_conversion_mosque_plan_given_go_ahead_after_appeal_despite_huge_opposition/
I’ve cut and pasted the whole story from the Wanstead and Woodford Guardian as sometimes these Islam related stories have a habit of being ‘re-edited’ or even removed from local papers. Similarly with the comments. Just in case it ‘disappears’, you will find the comments pasted below as an addendum.
It’s plain to see that there was massive resistance to this latest incident of ‘mosque dumping’ in areas they are not wanted, and even the Labour-run Redbridge council felt that this new mosque was a piss-take too far even for Labour. It’s fair to say that the people of Redbridge are suffering a rash of mosques along with the traffic, radicalisation, misogyny and other problems that they bring. Eventually the non-Muslim locals will get fed up with Islam-derived problems, on the streets, in the schools and elsewhere, and will feel that the area they lived in and loved is no longer ‘for them’ and will move out. This is similar to the pattern that has happened in other places including neighbouring boroughs like Newham and Waltham Forest where Islamification made the area so unpleasant for non-Muslims, that Newham now has only 17% White British residents and where Islam calls the shots in local politics. If the pattern of Islamification is the same in Redbridge as it is elsewhere, including in Newham, then we can expect to see an exodus of Christians, Jews, Sikhs and others escaping the aggressive and intolerant ideology of Islam.
This new mosque is not wanted by the local people and has been imposed on the people of Woodford by a planning inspector based in Bristol. There is now no way out for locals who object to this perverse decision apart from taking the matter to the High Court and challenging the decision of the planning inspector. This decision does seem wrong, the Islamic group had illegally used the building as a place or worship, yet they are rewarded for their abject disrespect of the law by being granted retrospective planning permission. It should be challenged and I do hope it is. This is an intolerable imposition on the people of Woodford and this development will bring nothing but grief.
This is yet another example of a legitimate and legal route of resistance to the imposition of Islam being closed off, and bodes badly for the future. If local communities are going to have mosques imposed on them in this way, over the heads of elected councillors who refuse permission, then such decisions may in future be flashpoints for a violent response by local people, who feel that they have no other way of fighting back apart from taking direct action. This is not a situation that we should relish or celebrate. Taking away people’s rights to object to the presence of this highly objectionable ideology called Islam, is a sure-fire way of creating a powder-keg of embittered, angry people who await only a spark to set the explosion off. As I constantly say such a situation would be a failure of politics and a failure of law and it is something that we as Britons should do our utmost to avoid. The people, the voters, need their right to say ‘no’ or ‘yes’ to developments such as this, especially as mosques bring no jobs and often create a host of new problems that need to be tackled, problems that could have been avoided by the simple matter of not building a mosque where it was not wanted nor needed.
Links
Planning inspector goes over the heads of elected councillor and imposes a mosque on an area despite hundreds of objections to the proposal.
Original earlier story of the refusal of planning permission by Redbridge council
http://www.guardian-series.co.uk/news/11704798.Shops_conversion_mosque_plan_rejected/?ref=mr
Other stories regarding the London Borough of Redbridge from the Fahrenheit211 website
The sorry saga of the Islamification of Redbridge Part I
The sorry saga of the Islamification of Redbridge Part II
Labour gaining from whipped mosque vote
Yet another mosque imposed on the unwilling population of Redbridge
Dishonesty and taqiyya from Hainault ‘mosque-a-teers’
More Redbridge stories can be found by typing the word ‘Redbridge’ into the search box on the Right hand side of the Fahrenheit211 webpage
Addendum:
Comments from the Wanstead and Woodford Guardian (just in case they disappear)
At time of going to pixel there were 23 comments. Please forgive unformatted ‘data-dump’
Shop conversion mosque plan given go-ahead after appeal despite huge opposition
paul.taylor742 says… 3:08pm Tue 28 Jul 15
Allah hu akbar…local residents can look forward to parking chaos, extra noise and disturbance with car doors slamming, and attendees attending at all hours. The Govt should look at introducing a law, that those found to be using a premises without planning permission firstly in place should have their application permanetly barred, though with Dhimmi Dave at the helm, this will never happen…
Score: 48
gerryboy says… 5:51pm Tue 28 Jul 15
Once again Council leaders forget they are voted in to represent us not to rule over us, as if they are God himself.
Score: 34
Fido8753 says… 5:58pm Tue 28 Jul 15
Just ridiculous , what was the Planning Inspector thinking ! I have no confidence in these unlelected sketchy beaurocrats from Bristol. Gutted for the local shopkeepers and the area in general
Score: 35
pat.smethurst says… 6:18pm Tue 28 Jul 15
Whose taking backhanders?
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taff ray davies says… 6:21pm Tue 28 Jul 15
Wait till they have built it and moved in it wont take them long to start buying up the property next door
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parkingtrouble says… 7:05pm Tue 28 Jul 15
Triple Whammy. Loss of High Street amenities, loss of parking for customers of local businesses and the insidious, continued Islamification of (a once) Great Britain.
Score: 53
Beryl the Peril says… 8:09pm Tue 28 Jul 15
Horrible. My sympathies to the local people who did not want this. The Bristol-based planning inspectorate are completely clueless as to the damage this will do to the area. As has happened to many other areas.
Score: 33
Democrat1 says… 9:27pm Tue 28 Jul 15
you can’t get parked at the best of times so how people converging on an area all at the same time is going to work I am not sure.. no doubt clogging up neighbouring roads and making residents lives a misery…..
Score: 23
Democrat1 says… 9:28pm Tue 28 Jul 15
Cll Canal as usual on the ball with the representative view of those in his ward… Any chance of a final appeal?
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Pcgawnmad says… 10:20pm Tue 28 Jul 15
Muslims win again, death knell for Woodford begins, already have one South Woodford now here, all along the Central Line, slowly slowly the tentacles of Islam expand, very clever.
Score: 31
lennonuk says… 8:04am Wed 29 Jul 15
This is what happens when the majority keep putting the same parties in to office how much does it take for the british people to see whats happening to there country
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Howard Wolowitz says… 8:21am Wed 29 Jul 15
lennonuk wrote…
This is what happens when the majority keep putting the same parties in to office how much does it take for the british people to see whats happening to there country
It’s “their” country lennon. A form of the possessive case of they used as an attributive adjective, before a noun: their home; their rights as citizens; their departure for Rome.
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Howard Wolowitz says… 8:22am Wed 29 Jul 15
gerryboy wrote…
Once again Council leaders forget they are voted in to represent us not to rule over us, as if they are God himself.
Gerryboy the Councillors ruled against, the Bristol based appeals unit passed it off.
Score: 2
kevster100 says… 8:28am Wed 29 Jul 15
Shi ite Muslims !! Is there any chance of an appeal on this ? Otherwise the area and property values are doomed.
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Sue Tomlinson says… 9:27am Wed 29 Jul 15
I am appalled at how this has been passed – particularly by Bristol (what the hell do Bristol have to do with planning permission in Woodford Essex? This needs to be investigated for money passing hands as I cannot understand how this has been passed with a partition of 100 + 57 online FOR as against a partition of 850 + residence AGAINST – Do the planning people have a problem with numbers. The local people are totally against this and I am sure we need to raise a further objection – does anyone know how to do this (does anyone live in Bristol)? And if our local MP is reading this you are welcome to comment and we would appreciate you fighting this on our behalf and anyone willing to back this please pass comment
Score: 6
Fido8753 says… 9:50am Wed 29 Jul 15
No right of appeal…unless the council can prove wrongdoing and take it to the High Court for a Judicial Review.
Score: 4
paul.taylor742 says… 10:01am Wed 29 Jul 15
Sue Tomlinson wrote…
I am appalled at how this has been passed – particularly by Bristol (what the hell do Bristol have to do with planning permission in Woodford Essex? This needs to be investigated for money passing hands as I cannot understand how this has been passed with a partition of 100 + 57 online FOR as against a partition of 850 + residence AGAINST – Do the planning people have a problem with numbers. The local people are totally against this and I am sure we need to raise a further objection – does anyone know how to do this (does anyone live in Bristol)? And if our local MP is reading this you are welcome to comment and we would appreciate you fighting this on our behalf and anyone willing to back this please pass comment
Sue..”The only way you can appeal against the Inspector’s decision is in the High Court. To be successful, you would have to show that the Inspector misinterpreted the law. If your challenge is successful The Planning Inspectorate will look at your appeal again. But this doesn’t necessarily mean that the original decision will be reversed.” Don’t expect your newly elected MP, Mr Wesley Streeting to show any interest, as he is far too busy, along with John Cryer MP reporting websites to the DPP (See Ilford Recorder story) http://www.ilfordrec order.co.uk/home/red bridge_mps_call_for_ far_right_website_in citing_hatred_agains t_muslims_to_be_shut _1_4171993 It amazes me how those on the left, and prominent members of the LGBT community, such as our newly elected gay MP Mr Streeting atively support those who would rather see him taken to the top of a tall building and shown the quick way down… Still one has to appease the core vote…
Score: 5
Sue Tomlinson says… 11:04am Wed 29 Jul 15
Thank you Fido and Paul – this is totally wrong – yet again the people are at a loss. At this stage I would be interested to see the reports of the Bristol Appeal office to see whether the Appeals Officer actually bore in mind all the negative comments about the traffic and parking and what the local residence have to cope with already – I wonder if they have even been to Snakes Lane East??? I thought planning permission was supposed to be representative of what the majority wanted within reason. I just don’t understand how they have come to this conclusion without some wrong doing but how on earth would you be able to prove that in order to get it to the High Court? I appreciate your comments on not getting any support from our local MP – we need someone in the know to fight our corner – any ideas ??
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paul.taylor742 says… 11:25am Wed 29 Jul 15
It would appear someone is looking to bury an incovienient truth, with the comment below removed, and comments now closed on the Ilford Recorder article on this issue….. Allah hu akbar…local residents can look forward to scenes similar to Hainault, which include, parking chaos, extra noise and disturbance with car doors slamming, and attendees attending at all hours, with no regard to the local community or any planning permission granted. You have to admire the brass neck of Cllr Turbefield who stated ““I am shocked that somebody from Bristol could come down and not take into consideration the interests and views of the local community.” Not as shocked as the local residents in Hainault who found a council imposed and publicly funded “Community Centre” being located in the middle of Hainault, with all three Hainault Ward Cllrs opposing the plans, but brushed aside by the then leadership cabinet, of which Cllr Turberfield was a part, with the “Community Centre” and it’s management having no local support…..still, what goes around, comes around, etc, etc… Maybe the Govt should look at introducing a law, that those found to be using a premises without planning permission firstly in place should have their application permanently barred, though with Dhimmi Dave at the helm, this will never happen…..I wonder how long before this paper is contacted and asked to remove & close comments “so as not to predudice the councils position”?
Score: 3
LycraBikeWarrior says… 11:30am Wed 29 Jul 15
shame it cant have been turned into a bike and coffee shop.
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Howard Wolowitz says… 11:30am Wed 29 Jul 15
Sue a basic understanding of how the planning process works might assist you. Anybody can appeal to the building inspectorate based in Bristol. Their inspector would have visited the site and walked around the area making notes as necessary. If he finds planning was refused on grounds other than following basic procedures laid down by law then he can grant permission for the project to proceed. All the jumping up and down and no matter how many objections were raised the only way to reverse his decision is via the High Court as explained earlier. This goes some way to stopping nimbyism. i.e. all these Muslims congregating on their knees so many times a day, do they not have proper jobs? Your house price is neither here nor there in these matters. Apologies for the bad news I am only the messenger. However the Council need to be rigorous in enforcing parking violations with no exceptions, there is a lot of looking the other way in Waltham Forest for example.
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Icouldbedancing says… 1:23pm Wed 29 Jul 15
A sad sad day for Woodford and I myself as a resident of Prospect Road dread what is to come. Parking is a nightmare already! A big error has been made totally unsuitable to turn small shops into mosque, not what the local people wanted. The very fact they operated illegally to start with should have not allowed this to go any further. Big back-handers I smell!
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KatieHPhoto says… 1:41pm Wed 29 Jul 15
There goes my house price…
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If this does go ahead then how long will it be before St Barnabas`s church suffers a mysterious fire of unknown origin?
Not long I reckon. It’s not as if the followers of Islam don’t have form for treating Christians and others like crap is it?
I know Snakes Lane, I’ve driven down it quite often (though not recently) and the thought of the havoc this mosque will cause with parking doesn’t bear thinking about.
Disgusting – and typical. 850 locals against it, 100 muslims are for it – and minority wins. “!Democracy” indeed.
We had (and might have again) a similar problem in South Woodford. Actually, is there any place in the UK which is safe from the mosque attacks?
I understand that the appeal to the High Court would involve expenses – but could it be worth for the local residents to contact Gavin Boby at the Law and Freedom Foundation:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2261623/Mosque-buster-claims-stop-tide-Islam-giving-free-advice-block-building-plans-new-places-worship.html.
They encourage people to apply as early as possible at the stage of application to increase chances of success. However, they might help, although there would be some High Court fees. If petition is started about it, I am sure local people would donate for the fees; I am not quite local – but I would!