Britain’s Trans cry-bullies get worse

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Caroline Farrow the latest victim of transgender cry-bullies using the law to silence critics of the trans cult

Posted By: Fahrenheit211 March 20, 2019

 

I used to be, and somewhat still am, supportive of adults who wish to use surgery and drugs to give themselves the superficial appearance of being the opposite gender to that which they were born with. I still believe that it is the right of adults, over the age of 21, to do what they wish to their bodies. Over the years I’ve met plenty of people who have engaged in body modification of one sort or another, including gender transition, yet they are still often sane and decent individuals who I have been happy to call friends.

However, I give zero support to the sort of transgender activists who want to push transgender ideology onto children and young people or the sort who behave like cry-bullies when their ideology is challenged and criticised. Such activists do nothing that could really help those struggling with their gender self image. This is because these activists push one view and one view only on the matter of gender identity, that of transition. Worse still too many of these trans activists are all too keen on using the cudgel of the law to silence criticism of the ideology of transgenderism itself and to intimidate those who question whether the trans activists have got things right or not.

The latest example of arrogant trans activists using the law to silence critics comes via the Daily Signal, an organ of the US Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank. According to the Daily Signal, a writer, Caroline Farrow, who is a convert from Anglicanism to Catholicism, has been contacted by Surrey police, because of some remarks she made on a UK television programme about transgenderism.

The Daily Signal said:

A Catholic journalist in the United Kingdom faces legal trouble and potential jail time for “misgendering” a 25-year-old transgender woman.

Caroline Farrow, the journalist, said Monday that the mother of the transgender woman had reported her for the offense.

“Had a message from Guildford police tonight about my tweets following an appearance on [‘Good Morning Britain’] with Susie Green and Piers Morgan,” Farrow said in a tweet. “Susie Green has reported me for misgendering her daughter.”

Farrow, a broadcaster, media commentator, and public speaker who has appeared on BBC and Sky News, said that all she was told by police after she went on “Good Morning Britain” in September is that she “made some tweets misgendering Susie Green’s child and that I need to attend a taped interview.”

Here’s the GMB interview the police referred to. From what I understand this wasn’t illegal but some follow-up tweets were. https://t.co/suOELE7aSK

— Caroline Farrow (@CF_Farrow) March 18, 2019

Green, the mother of the transgender woman, defended transgender rights during the “Good Morning Britain” episode.

“Trans girls are far more at risk of abuse, prejudice, and we know that from the statistics around self-harm and suicide,” Green said.

This case should give readers some idea as to how bad things are regarding freedom of speech in the United Kingdom today. We now have a situation where even questioning transgenderism is forbidden and where ‘misgendering’ people carries with it the risk of a maximum two year prison sentence under the Communications Act.

Now whilst I do not share Ms Farrow’s religious belief, I along with a great many other Britons am uneasy at the wall to wall promotion of transgender issues that is taking place in the media, in the political class and, especially worryingly, in our children’s schools. Groups such as the one that Ms Green runs, the paediatric gender transition promotion group called Mermaids, which recently received £500,000 in National Lottery funding, should be subject to criticism and debate where necessary. Neither this group nor anyone associated with it should be exempt from having their ideology challenged or their recommendations debated.

It is shameful to see the police acting as enforcers for Susie Green over something as minor as misgendering her ‘daughter’. This is especially the case as there are persistent rumours going around that Susie Green took her then 16 year son to Thailand for gender transition surgery despite the fact that UK law states that the minimum age for gender reassignment surgery is 18. We should quite rightly be concerned that there appears to be no action taken against Ms Green for what she did to her son, which is basically castration, yet who seems to be able to twist various police forces around her little finger and get them to act on her behalf whenever her, her family or her ideology is criticised.

Although Susie Green is trying to climb up onto the moral high ground, both her and her organisation have done things and said things that deserve to be matters of public debate. I don’t know about you but I am seriously uncomfortable with the idea that a woman who castrated her son and put him through gender transition procedures below the age that such procedures are permitted in the UK, is having so much influence over the police, the government and our education system. There are numerous reasons to be wary of the use of gender transition as a cure all for people’s sadnesses and other mental conditions. Some of those who question the trans cult may do so for religious reasons but there are others, such as myself, who have scientific and ethical objections to things such as paediatric gender transition. However no matter what reason we may have for objecting to the wilder shores of transgenderism that are being promoted as ‘normal’, we are all silenced by the cult of trans and this cult’s high priestesses like Susie Green.

My objections to the promotion of the cult of trans do not come from a position of unthinking bigotry. Instead it comes from seeing trans friends psychologically deflate after transition, when they realise that what ever was bothering them and what led them to the path of transition is still there and transition has not cured them. Yes there are a lot of suicides among trans people but in my experience they are often of people who transitioned without enough thought and informed consent or who have grabbed onto the idea of transitioning as a way of curing themselves of their mental ills.

If we are as a society to do our best for those with mental issues that manifest in gender identity problems then we need to be able to debate what is the best way to help such people. The use of the law by the likes of Susie Green to bully people into using particular forms of required speech, which restrictions on ‘misgendering’ are, prevents us from working out as a society the best way to help those with gender identity issues. My own experience with trans people has taught me that many of these individuals experience temporary gender identity issues or the concerns about gender identity mask other underlying problems that will not be cured by hormones and surgery. We cannot help such people by forbidding debate on these issues, yet Susie Green and those like her seems to feel it acceptable to use the law to stop people asking the awkward questions of the transgender movement that we should, as a matter of priority be asking. None of this is going to end well in my opinion. Allowing the promoters of trans ideology to call all the shots is I believe going to end in multiple tragedies as trans people age and realise just what a false path they have been on and how they may have been better helped by means other than gender transition.

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3 Comments on "Britain’s Trans cry-bullies get worse"

  1. ScotchedEarth | March 21, 2019 at 12:40 am |

    There is an interesting, if long, ‘copypasta’ here (slightly more readable format here on ∞chan). One section is particularly worth excerpting:

    SRS doesn’t work. Hormones don’t work. Both of these things only make the problem much, much worse.

    This is Dennis Avner, the Cat Man. Heard of him? He was transgender and “transpecies.” He believed himself to be a female tiger. So he had all the surgeries he wanted. He had his teeth filed into fangs, his lips, nose and ears surgically altered, his body tattooed, got contacts, and purchased an animatronic tail, and what ended up happening at the end of his transformation? The same thing that happens to most trannies, he killed himself.

    Gender Identity Disorder is similar to Body Integrity Identity Disorder, wherein someone believes a part of their party is foreign to them, and if they just cut it off their life will improve. Fittingly, there’s a lot of overlap between the two conditions. In fact, you may as well call them the same. It’s also very similar to people addicted to plastic surgery. Women getting breast reductions, and then implants, and then smaller implants, then larger. Liposuction, nose jobs, botox—on and on; it never ends. They end up looking freakish and malformed and are never able to fix what they perceive is wrong with them.

    Trannies have high levels of overlap with autism and mental retardation, as well. … You think there’s something wrong with you, something maybe surgery can fix, but it never does. Now what happens to someone when they finish their “transformation”—when they’ve made the change they thought would fix them, and none of their actual problems have gone away?

    Add to that the devastating effect bombarding your body with hormones would have on anyone. Then consider that you have to keep taking those hormones for the rest of your life, because as soon as you stop the changes go away since the human body is absolutely astonishing at fixing itself. Then you find you can’t really look how you want to look; you end up looking at best neither male nor female, having a voice that’s instantly jarring and a body covered in scars. You’ll never be able to reproduce the way someone the gender you believe you are does. If you were MtF you’re not getting your balls back. If you were FtM, you’re not getting your boobs back.

    Now magnify that even further. Suppose you’re surrounded by a media telling you this is the right decision for you, that you’ll be better and should be celebrated for it, and you get into a community of other people all going through the same thing, and they’re all supportive but aggressive and irrational, and then once you reach the end of your “transition” you feel it was a mistake, and suddenly all those family members and counselors and members of your “community” who supported you suddenly turn their back on you. Admitting you could be wrong means admitting they were wrong. Now all that progressive, empty-headed support is gone and you’re left still being bombarded by those hormones in a mutilated body.

    So ask yourself, who hates these people? The ones who want them to be happy and continue to live, or the ones who are perfectly fine watching them ruin their lives and kill themselves because to do otherwise would conflict with their political dogma?

    • Fahrenheit211 | March 21, 2019 at 7:19 am |

      Thank you there’s some interesting stuff there. The comments about the trans community turning on those trans people who ask odd or awkward questions about the trans cult and its supporters is correct. I’ve also found the trans activists to be more than necessarily aggressive and arrogant. I recall once organising an event that would benefit those who were questioning their sexuality and almost as soon as it was announced that I was doing that, I started to get pressure from trans activists to turn the event into a specifically trans event. This all happened 20 years ago and the trans activists were aggressive headcases then and they are worse now. I completely agree that some groups, in particular Stonewall, have put trans ideology way ahead of doing right by those who have gender identity issues.

      Like you I really don’t think that SRS is the best cure for gender identity issues. The operations and medications are complex, can have significant complications and the person is never free of the cross sex hormones. I think that in the odd case SRS might be able to help some people, but I think that the vast majority of people with gender disorders should be helped in some other way. I’m really bothered by the seemingly large number of people for whom SRS has not cured them of the underlying psych problems that may have manifested themselves as gender dysphoria.

      The only significant point on which I disagree with your comment is the statement that mental retardation and autism are factors in trans feelings. Most of the trans people I have met and that includes those for whom transition has not cured their problem are highly intelligent people who have other problems that may not be linked to gender issues at all. I do however think that there are a lot of higher functioning autists among those who jump on the trans cult bandwagon maybe because they see transitioning as a way of negating the social isolation effects of autism. Like many of us who oppose the trans cult, I don’t do it because I hate trans people, I oppose the trans cult because it is offering the wrong treatment solution to the wrong patients and doing great harm as a result.

  2. ScotchedEarth | March 22, 2019 at 1:21 am |

    I accept your point and concede that ‘overlap’ aspect claimed by the copypasta’s author. What impressed me was the account of Dennis Avner, who had all the surgeries possible, and still ended up topping himself; and as the copypasta ends, who really ‘hates’ them—us who want to help them to live, or those pushing their agenda? Here is a series of reddit posts from someone going through then regretting MtF SRS—it’s quite sad reading; poor guy should have had a friend to tell him, ‘Mate… cutting bits of yourself off ain’t gonna solve your problems. You ain’t gonna wake up as Marilyn Monroe (maybe Marilyn as she ODs)… let’s just go get rat-arsed.’

    Wrt the cry-bullies, this video from politically moderate youtuber ‘The Britisher’ is interesting (presaging Overton Window shifting?). Commenting on police harassing someone for retweeting a limerick, he mulled:

    … I am increasingly losing patience with the entire LGBTQ nonsense. If trans people in particular cannot get their house in order and stop militating in such ways, then I would sooner see them have no rights as trans people than their possessing the right to inflict this sort of denunciation culture upon our nation. So used to denouncing anyone to the social media companies have their kind become that they see no issue in further escalating this by running to the police. And the State, given to social justice posturing, is facilitating it with rules and regulations—or should I say ‘national guidance’. This is simply rotten. It is time that at least one of the major parties in this country wakes up to the sheer danger in which free expression finds itself these days. When the State enforcement agency calls you at your home to advise you to change the manner in which you voice your opinions or best not to voice them at all, then the alarm bells are ringing.

    … We’ve had people in court for jokes now—and no, not only Count Dankula. We’ve had a young woman found guilty for uploading rap lyrics; we’ve had a man in Newcastle prosecuted for writing an obscene story; we’ve even had a man prosecuted for possession of a pornographic clip on his mobile phone in which one of the protagonists was wearing a tiger onesie; we’ve had people prosecuted for golliwog puppets; we’ve had a man prosecuted for revving his car in a racially aggravated manner. Folks, how much more ridiculous can this become? Is it really so hard to bear the presence of others? Can we really not live with each other? Because if not, then I argue we get rid of the militants who would use the State to crush others—those who agitate to silence others.

    Let’s charge them. Let’s prosecute them. Let’s lock them up instead. Yes, let’s just invent a law. For do not tell me that all this intersectional nonsense has made the world a better place. It clearly has not brought about the social change these people claim to desire—not if they are still surrounded, by their own claims, by a society that hates them, wishes to do them harm at every turn. So let’s just get rid of all this LGBTQ nonsense. Let’s criminalise the gays and lock up the trans people with them. After all, why not lock up them instead of the ‘wrong-speakers’? I mean, it’s not as if they’re giving our society any credit for having decriminalised and liberalised these areas of law. And rather than hounding gays and transsexuals for what they are, we are now actively hounding those who might criticise them. What are we supposed to have gained? Justice? How? We’ve removed injustice from some groups and instead imposed it on others. I mean, has the world really become this blind?

    Now, of course, I do not mean this quite seriously. Let’s call it a thought experiment to try to illustrate how the ceasing of the persecution of some groups has led to the persecutions of others. But the previous persecution was not in danger of bringing down the whole structure around it whereas this is. These people are threatening to destroy the concept of free speech while attempting to hold themselves legally immune to criticism and to dislike from others. In trying to create a safe space for men to dress up as women and claim themselves another sex, we might just be flushing away our hard-won liberties.

    Incidentally, our former prohibitions (including the other vices of prostitution and gambling) were lightly enforced. E.g. Oscar Wilde’s prosecution resulted from his making a mockery of British justice by initiating a libel suit based on the lie that he was not homosexual; when his deception was publicly exposed in court, the Law had little choice but to prosecute. If Wilde had emulated Wellington—who, threatened with the publication of tales about him and a mistress, dismissed the cur with ‘Publish and be damned’—then he likely would never have been prosecuted. E.g. in Wilde’s circle was Cecil George Ives, who inspired E.W. Hornung’s Raffles character; a practising homosexual but he never suffered prosecution—even though campaigning for legalising homosexuality. And Noël Coward’s homosexuality was an open secret (in his social circles)—even Winston knew (the most he did was put the kibosh on a knighthood for which Noël was being considered). But there was no attempt from any quarter to prosecute Noël: he was not challenging or outraging Society in any way; and his private life was exactly that—private. US Army and Pacific War veteran James Jones in his famous From Here To Eternity and The Thin Red Line includes in passing some homosexual characters and incidents, suggesting that even the US Army of 1939–44 (James Jones’ years of service) displayed a fair level of tolerance.

    We seem to have had more of a ‘live and let live’ attitude with various legal prohibitions of vices in place than since we abolished those prohibitions.

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