There has finally been a debate in the House of Commons about the issue of grooming gangs, or to give them their more proper name, Islamic Rape Gangs as it is Muslim men who are, as we can see from conviction data, disproportionally involved in these type of gang-style sexual offences. The debate has been a long time coming. The petition was set up early in 2020 and closed in September of that year and it is only now that the House of Commons has seen fit to debate this matter.
Whilst it is good to see that this matter has finally got to Parliament, I was disgusted to see that the debate was woefully short. I’ve read through the Hansard record on this and it can’t have been more than half an hour or 40 minutes or so in length. This is not long enough to debate a serious and worrying issue that is of extreme concern to the public.
It’s also pretty mind-blowing that it has take so long for this issue to be brought before Parliament, especially as it was back in 2018 that the former Home Secretary Sajid Javid announced that there was going to be a full inquiry into this issue and that a report would be released about it. A report was eventually, after much pressure from the public, released but it was nothing like what we were led to expect we would get when Mr Javid announced his intention to commission the report. From what I’ve seen of it, the report tried to downplay the racial targeting aspect of these Islamic Rape Gangs, made excuses for omissions such as ‘not enough data’ to show that Muslim men are disproportionally involved in these crimes, even though we can see that they are so involved by looking at the conviction stories. What we got from the report was a bland ‘all communities are involved in group based sexual exploitation’ type of view. It is my belief, based on a long observation of this issue, that Sajid Javid’s original intention for the report was stymied by Home Office civil servants who do not wish the full extent of this problem to be in the public eye.
As for the debate itself, it was the Tories who were willing to tackle the issue of culture and its relation to these crimes. Only the Tories in this debate were willing to point out that this is something that we should talk about and that political correctness and a fear by police of being called ‘racist’ if they acted as they should on the Islamic Rape Gangs. Some Labour MP’s in this debate were better than others. Sarah Champion and even Jess Phillips contributed something positive to this Commons debate whilst others such as the Labour MP for Slough, Mr Tanmanjeet Singh Dhesi who called concerns about the Muslim community and these crimes ‘myths and stereotypes’. He of all people, being a Sikh, should be aware that for decades these Islamic Rape Gangs targeted girls from his own community and when Sikhs went to the police to complain about the Rape Gangs, the police brushed them off. So much for ‘myths and stereotypes’.
Too many of the MP’s, both Tory and Labour bleated on about the ‘far right’ and how the ‘far right’ sow ‘division’ by highlighting the problems caused by Islamic Rape Gangs. Some of the MP’s highlighted groups, such as the EDL that now no longer exist in any meaningful form and claimed that they are still active in campaigns about this issue. It seems that our political class is determined to class anyone who speaks up about this issue and who does not come from within the political class as ‘far right’.
Both the debate and the report into group CSE were dragged reluctantly from a feet dragging government and it shows. These MP’s and the Civil Service must know that the problem of Islamic Rape Gangs is huge and not just confined to a few Northern towns but spread across the country and they may fear what might happen if the public was given access to all the data relating to this problem therefore they keep as much as they possibly can hidden from public view. The political class fear losing their seats in Parliament because of public anger and the administrative class fear exposure and public opprobrium for hiding this serious problem for so long.
Do I believe that every Muslim man is a rapist? Of course I do not. That would be as silly as believing every Muslim is a terrorist and denying the existence of more peaceful and woman-respecting branches of Islam such as the Ahmediyya and the Ismailis. But what we do have is a problem with certain Islamic communities and a subset of these communities seeing non-Muslims and especially non-Muslim women and children, as less than human. Once members of one group see people in other groups as less then human, then you get a rise in offences against the dehumanised group. This isn’t any thing new, in the past some colonial powers did it to the natives, the Stalinist Communists did it to the Kulaks, the Nazis did it to the Jews, it’s something that has been with us throughout history. There is a strong element in Islam of supremacism a feeling and an attitude that the Islamic way is the best way and that those who are not Muslim are of less worth. The Muslims who commit these crimes against those outside of their group do not see their victims as human but as Untermenschen, sub-humans and therefore fair game.
Until our political class admit that this is the case, no amount of hand-wringing in the House of Commons will change the fact that some Muslims attack non-Muslims either through sexual violence or via Jihad and things will not improve. Whilst the debate in the Commons was brief but welcome, I doubt very much that it will do anything to stop what has been going on with regards Islamic Rape Gangs or stop them happening in the future.
Postscript
People reading this article may be interested in the podcast of the Lotuseaters on this subject which is linked below.
Good post.
It is about time these rapists are hung out to dry.
It has been happening for years.
When I was 14 years old there was a Muslim family living in my road and one day they asked me to come with them to visit their ‘cousins’ in Portsmouth. Like a fool I thought they were being friendly and having nothing better to do I agreed.
When we got to the house of these ‘cousins’ the Muslim man who lived there told his wife and children to go into another room. As they obediently went the man started smiling at me and looking me up and down in a disgusting way. I made my excuses and left and caught the train home. It seems very obvious to me that I had a lucky escape.
Children especially need to be protected from these using, perverted bastards.
I am in agreement that not all Muslim men are nasty individuals but there are and has been for decades, many of them around.
I too think something should be done.
To stop racism, they want to sacrifice young white girls? Is that what they are saying?
It says lots when this is only being discussed because of a public petition
Boris needs to come down heavy on this.
It’s not just a scandal its a national horror
Shorter Video youtube.com/watch?v=aPv94d1Wi-c
This problem is indeed a national horror. Some of this horror has been caused by Blair’s politicisation of the police,but the problem goes back longer than that and has roots also in police laziness, seeing some people as less worthy of help than others and a desire not to rock local boats.
Ahmadis and Ismaelis are muslims. muslims believe that the koran is the unadulterated word of _allah_, and is the total incontrovertible truth.muslims, as their designation indicates. submit themselves to _allah_. [islam means submission.]
There is no respect for women in the koran.
Quite the opposite.
[This is not surprising as the koran is nothing more than a collection of semi-fictions devised by the various semitic warring tribes over hundreds of years prior to the “publication” of the koran. How much of the view of women by these fighters was conditioned by their limited (sole?) contact with female camp followers is a matter for debate.]
wrt to women, _allah_ (worshipped by ALL muslims) says in the koran that women must submit to the demands (by implication, sexual demands) of their “husbands”.
If the Ahmadis and Ismaelis respect women, This is not respect as I understand it. Though maybe you (following the Jewish – Abrahamic – faith) are much more aligned with the views on women of Ahmadis and Ismaelis and their Abrahamic faith.
PS Not a biggie, but It’s “MPs” not “MP’s”, unless you are talking about what a single MP possesses, If it’s about MPs possessions, then it’s “MPs'”. I generally only use the possessive when I am talking about something one can actually possess, and can give to someone else. For example a muslim’s clothing, but the beliefs of a muslim.